[Editor's Note: None but the most perspicacious non-lawyer is aware that the legal industry remains faithful to the ideas embodied in the medieval guild. A guild attempts to construct barriers to competition, keeping prices and sometimes standards of quality high. One method is to limit entry into the guild. American lawyers, while maintaining a strong semblance of these hallowed guild practices -- accredited qualifications, in-house training, seven years of "indentured servitude," etc. -- haven't been particularly successful in limiting entry. The law schools -- the variable the American guild can not really control -- have generated far more talent than the field can practically absorb. Neither, evidently has the Chinese equivalent of the lawyer's guild been successful in policing its sphere of control, until very recently. We are grateful to CCH Hong Kong Limited, and especially to Elaine Wong, its Publishing Manager, and Mia Prieur for this excerpt of Mia's report on the reaction of one guild to the apparent advances on its territory of another.]
The Shot Heard ‘Round the World: A Brewing Revolution Against Foreign Law Firms in
— Including Exclusive Interviews with Richard Wang and Martin Hu of the Shanghai Bar Association
Mia Prieur
Another hot summer is preparing to descend on
To understand more about the background leading up to the Memorandum’s posting and what it means, China Legal Watch (“CLW”) talked to Richard Wang and Martin Hu. Wang is the Vice-chairman of the SBA and Chairman of the SBA Special Committee on Foreign Affairs that initiated the Memorandum while Hu is Vice-chairman of the Committee. This is the first time they have accepted interviews from the foreign press since the issue of the Memorandum. For these interviews, both speak in their SBA capacity.
Interview with Richard Wang
CLW: Why did the SBA post the Memorandum now?
Wang: The dissatisfaction with what is going on in the legal community has been building up over many years. This issue of foreign law firms giving Chinese legal advice to their foreign clients has continued for too long and gone too far — it has reached a boiling point. There has to be a movement in order to achieve changes in this community. Members of the bar: we need dramatic change in the foreign legal community; we need a revolution.
CLW: How did things reach this state?
Wang: It is due to the lack of supervision over the foreign law firms from the Shanghai BOJ and [its superior organ] the Ministry of Justice (“MOJ”). The foreign firms are openly violating the regulations, and very little is done about it. There seems to be no partnership anymore between the local and foreign law firms. The local government received complaints from the local firms but has done very little about it.
CLW: Does the Memorandum represent the members of SBA or the government?
Wang: Yes. When the Memorandum was circulated among the leaders of the SBA, there was no dissenting opinion written, and a unanimous decision was reached by the Committee. One of the Shanghai BOJ chiefs approved it as well. He was present when the Memorandum was discussed and he expressly approved it.
The SBA took that as a signal from the MOJ to act on this matter.
CLW: How should foreign firms view the Memorandum?
Wang: The Memorandum should be considered a warning notice to the foreign law firms that they cannot continue their illegal activities.
CLW: There are statements that one of the prime factors behind the Memorandum was the economic pressure local firms feel from competition and, especially, the competition for young lawyers. Is this true?
Wang: The Memorandum is not about business, it is about the professional bar — judicial matters, not individual matters. Foreign law firms must act according to the Administration of Representative Offices of Foreign Law Firms in China Regulations (“Regulations”). Local law firms do feel some economic pressure from paying more money to associates to keep them from leaving for foreign law firms. However, employment is not a big issue behind the
Memorandum.
CLW: What do you think the Shanghai BOJ will do?
Wang: According to an official at the Shanghai BOJ, they have already found evidence of wrongdoing, and they are considering taking action on these foreign law firms. Foreign law firms cannot carry on with the violation of the Regulations if they intend to continue working in the
Interview with Martin Hu
CLW: What triggered the posting of the Memorandum?
Hu: There were two main factors. The SBA notices deep concern among Chinese law firms about the foreign firms’ increasing non-compliance with the Regulations. Complaints in this regard about foreign law firms from Chinese law firms and both Chinese and foreign companies have increased. There simply has been no effort made on either side, Chinese or foreign, to draw the line on activities that violate the Regulations.
Another reason is to protect the clients and maintain the professional reputation of the legal profession, Chinese and foreign. It is just so ridiculous that some foreign law firms on one hand give so-called “qualified” legal opinions or draft contracts under Chinese law with the disclaimer that they are not allowed to interpret Chinese law, but on the other hand charge clients full-fledged fees and act as if they are Chinese law experts. As time goes by, this becomes very misleading to the clients, which is very irresponsible on the part of the foreign firms. This causes harm to the clients and the profession and therefore should be changed.
CLW: Is that why the Memorandum takes such a strong tone?
Hu: The purpose of writing the Memorandum in this tone is to make the public pay attention to what is going on. There is abundant evidence that some foreign law firms have crossed the line and are still pushing as if the line does not exist. The situation is indeed severe, and is harming the Chinese law firms, the clients and the reputation of the entire legal profession. The SBA needs to let the public know how serious this situation is in
CLW: Law firms are businesses too. Is this about business and profits in the legal industry?
Hu: Lawyers are not business people. Lawyers have a responsibility to educate the public to be lawful citizens. Lawyers must play a positive role in building a rule of law society. My hope is that some day
to imagine that a rule of law society could be successfully built in
CLW: There are charges that the Memorandum is about protecting local lawyers from competition, and not about protecting the public or the clients. What is your reaction to those charges?
Hu: That is not the case. Of course there are economic issues. But as I said before, the purpose of the Memorandum is to first respect the law, and second to protect the clients and maintain the professional reputation of the entire legal profession, Chinese and foreign. As
I’m concerned about such charges because they are diverting the issue here. The public and the clients will be better protected if the foreign law firms abide by the Regulations and work with Chinese law firms in a more cooperative way. In fact there are federal regulations in the
CLW: What is the goal of the Memorandum?
Hu: The goal here is to set the course in the right direction so that a win-win environment can be achieved for both sides to work together. The foreign law firms have the responsibility to inform their foreign clients, and bring awareness to their foreign clients and professional insurance providers about the regulations of this country. They need to draw the line and respect the rule of law. Furthermore, they should set examples in this legal community by informing their clients that they should not be treated as Chinese law experts or practitioners
and that they would work with Chinese lawyers to better serve the clients.
Sub
So far, it looks like the Memorandum will be the only shot fired in the revolution — foreign law firms have remained resolutely silent about the matter, apparently as part of a unified strategy. Foreign law firms are relying on the Shanghai BOJ’s realpolitik to balance the interests of local lawyers with those of the members of the foreign investment community, most of whom will not rest easy if they cannot choose their own advisors. But even the Shanghai BOJ seems to be bowing to the forces that the SBA has unleashed and the criticism made against it. The SBA says that the matter has reached such a critical state due to the lack of supervision from the Shanghai BOJ and MOJ.
Speaking anonymously, foreign lawyers in
To date, there has been no official response from the Shanghai BOJ. It is widely understood that an investigation is proceeding and universally said that at least one or two foreign law firms will be disciplined. The rumour mongers claim that the BOJ will “kill a monkey to make an example”. The severity of the punishment will serve as an example to other would-be transgressors.
In response to a CLW inquiry, an officer of the MOJ in
The natural allies for foreign law firms are the foreign investors that they represent in
As one foreign lawyer points out, the
Flip Side of the Coin
In the interviews, Wang and Hu spoke with genuine passion about a lack of enforcement by the authorities. They pointed to a newspaper report citing an employee of a
Role Play
According to Hu, the purpose of the Memorandum is to have a dialogue with the foreign law firms to address the issues and roles played by foreign and domestic law firms. However, foreign firms actually see themselves as unequal partners in any dialogue. They face a complete termination of their business and the loss of many years and dollars invested in
He is certainly correct. The coverage of this matter in both domestic and foreign press is expanding; and the tone of reporting, especially in the local press, is becoming increasingly strident. Instead of dying in the summer heat, the issue threatens to flare up in a very ugly way. So far, the foreign law firms and foreign investment community have been silent and played a waiting game. In the current environment, they cannot afford to remain silent for much longer. For better or for worse, the SBA has already taken a highly confrontational approach. If the relations between the law firms are to be salvaged, the response of the foreign side will have to be both considered and mature. As one local lawyer said, “The important aspect of this is that
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